tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post7042395764451134575..comments2024-02-10T08:14:23.129+00:00Comments on GMorts Chaotica: Thunderhammer Vs. Lightning Claw.Gmorts Chaoticahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00018939871578423347noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-60771959742134833902010-12-11T12:34:01.711+00:002010-12-11T12:34:01.711+00:00I've ran the Maths for Lightning Claws with th...I've ran the Maths for Lightning Claws with the benefit of Furious Charge.<br /><br />http://gmortschaotica.blogspot.com/2010/12/thunderhammer-vs-lightning-claw-part-2.html<br /><br />Not as big a difference as I expected.Gmorts Chaoticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00018939871578423347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-66298369340853553642010-12-10T22:37:14.689+00:002010-12-10T22:37:14.689+00:00You really needed the picture of Superman with mjo...You really needed the picture of Superman with mjolnir and Cap's Shield from JLA/Avengers 4 for Hammer & Shield.<br /><br />http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/comic-covers/Post-Crisis-Covers/Specials-2004/jla-avengers4.jpg<br /><br />I usually put one Wolverine into a squad of Thors just for the help with taking out those extra few enemy before they get to attack.Lyracianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021663969271276571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-32708093592344441882010-12-10T21:25:45.768+00:002010-12-10T21:25:45.768+00:00I agree in theory, if you're not getting the 3...I agree in theory, if you're not getting the 3+ invulnerable then you may as well take shooty termies and have the flexibility of shooting at mdeium range/off the DS.<br /><br />However, i think, ironically enough, the LC termies are one of the best tools for killing *shock horro* the thunderhammer termies themselves (atleast according to the mathshammer i just did in my head so itmay be flawed).<br /><br />i did consider taking a pair of LC in my lysander squad simply to help when i'm up against hordes of things like orks but then i would still have lysander for the extra thunderhammer at strength 10 with a master crafted re-roll which is the only reason that in that particular case GMort's argument isnt wholy applicableMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16024476119738016708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-52451376486432297112010-12-10T16:40:21.538+00:002010-12-10T16:40:21.538+00:00Thunder hammers are badass. As the pictures of Tho...Thunder hammers are badass. As the pictures of Thor point out.James Paladinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222175179866335381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-45801394582524374882010-12-10T15:29:55.458+00:002010-12-10T15:29:55.458+00:00Hammers all the the way. 3+ invulnerable is just t...Hammers all the the way. 3+ invulnerable is just too much but also once the claws have wounded on a 4+ I'm finding hammers wound just the same on a 2+ - that 3+ invulnerable is just better, plus you can tackle monstrous creatures, walkers and vehicles a whole lot better with them too.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15192025704338851715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-50204400069182006422010-12-10T09:34:47.376+00:002010-12-10T09:34:47.376+00:00When playing tyranids there's few things I fea...When playing tyranids there's few things I fear more than a Land Raider dropping out TH/SS on my line. If those terminators turn out to be LCs I chuckle and yell "SEND IN THE WARRIORS!" (LW&BS/toxic naturally) and watch them gib.tk505https://www.blogger.com/profile/06610261917853324102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-7731945342761995362010-12-10T00:44:59.203+00:002010-12-10T00:44:59.203+00:00You need to redo the numbers vs vehicles. Probabil...You need to redo the numbers vs vehicles. Probability tops out at one amigo.GDMNWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14003947144311887937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-37694235597059269022010-12-09T23:07:52.049+00:002010-12-09T23:07:52.049+00:00@ Mark - The Furious Charge provided by a Priest i...@ Mark - The Furious Charge provided by a Priest in a Blood Angels List makes a big difference. I'll do the Maths and either add it to this post or do another post on it.<br /><br />In a vanilla Marine list I wouldn't mix and match. When you try and kill vehicles that have moved you'll miss each of those Thunderhammers that you've left out for Lightning Claws.Gmorts Chaoticahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00018939871578423347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-20571128095350428772010-12-09T22:32:03.552+00:002010-12-09T22:32:03.552+00:00whats your thoughts on mixing the squads? in a 3/2...whats your thoughts on mixing the squads? in a 3/2 thss/lc ratio say?<br /><br />also from a blood angels perspective is the priest adding fnp/fc to lighting claws worth having or leaving aloneMarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01487466186844011645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-494036981645947517.post-15989494046439275332010-12-09T21:45:37.385+00:002010-12-09T21:45:37.385+00:00For the most part, while the TH is great, the thin...For the most part, while the TH is great, the thing that tips TH/SS over the top is the Storm Shield in its current always 3++ version. Getting twice the likelihood of saving vs. the normal terminator killers like plasma and power weapons so they can continue to swing that hammer are what make them so powerful. Both TH and LC have their uses and better situations, but TH is more flexible and much more survivable against anything that bypasses that 2+ armor.sonsoftaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08466971377569066201noreply@blogger.com