I've seen a lot of stuff on your blog helping other people with their armies and I like the style of your own Custom chapter but you haven't posted anything for ages on what your actually using yourself in games. I just wondered what your building and/or using at the moment.
Oh and greetings from Canada by the way, lol.
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I haven't changed the 'Counts As' Space Wolves army list I have been using much at all from when I last posted it. I'm currently working on a bike army and attempting to update my Daemons. I'll repost the lists here for your convenience ;-)
My Current Army.
1750 Pts - Current Space Wolves List.
HQ: Rune Priest in Power Armour (1#, 120 pts)
1 Rune Priest in Power Armour @ 120 pts (Chooser of the Slain; Living Lightning; Tempest's Wrath; Saga of the Beastslayer)
HQ: Rune Priest in Power Armour (1#, 110 pts)
1 Rune Priest in Power Armour @ 110 pts (Chooser of the Slain; Jaws of the World Wolf; Living Lightning)
Elite: Wolf Guard Pack (8#, 306 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 306 pts (Wolf Guard in Power Armour; Wolf Guard in Power Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Razorback)
2 Wolf Guard in Power Armour (Combi-Meltagun x1; Wolf Claw x1)
4 Wolf Guard in Power Armour (Close Combat Weapon; Combi-Meltagun x1)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Cyclone Missile Launcher)
1 Razorback (Lascannon and TL Plasmagun)
Elite: Wolf Scouts Pack (5#, 85 pts)
5 Wolf Scouts Pack @ 85 pts (Meltagun)
Elite: Wolf Scouts Pack (5#, 85 pts)
5 Wolf Scouts Pack @ 85 pts (Meltagun)
Troops: Grey Hunters Pack (6#, 155 pts)
5 Grey Hunters Pack @ 155 pts (Meltagun; Razorback)
1 Razorback (Lascannon and TL Plasmagun)
Troops: Grey Hunters Pack (6#, 155 pts)
5 Grey Hunters Pack @ 155 pts (Meltagun; Razorback)
1 Razorback (Lascannon and TL Plasmagun)
Troops: Grey Hunters Pack (6#, 155 pts)
5 Grey Hunters Pack @ 155 pts (Meltagun; Razorback)
1 Razorback (Lascannon and TL Plasmagun)
Troops: Grey Hunters Pack (6#, 155 pts)
5 Grey Hunters Pack @ 155 pts (Meltagun; Razorback)
1 Razorback (Lascannon and TL Plasmagun)
Heavy Support: Long Fangs Pack (6#, 140 pts)
5 Long Fangs Pack @ 140 pts (Missile Launcher x5)
1 Squad Leader (Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon)
Heavy Support: Long Fangs Pack (6#, 140 pts)
5 Long Fangs Pack @ 140 pts (Missile Launcher x5)
1 Squad Leader (Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon)
Heavy Support: Long Fangs Pack (6#, 140 pts)
5 Long Fangs Pack @ 140 pts (Missile Launcher x5)
1 Squad Leader (Bolt Pistol; Close Combat Weapon)
Total Roster Cost: 1746
At 2000 points I drop a Chooser of the Slain and add Las/Plas Razorbacks for the Long Fang Squads or twiddle the points of other things around (dropping the Cyclone Wolf Guard does the job nicely) and add 2 more Grey Hunter Squads. The 2 Grey Hunter squads without a Wolf Guard attached to them then become my objective holding units if the rest of the Razorbacks need to move forward.
The updated Daemon army.
2000 Pts - Chaos Daemons Roster.
HQ: Herald of Tzeentch (1#, 95 pts)
1 Herald of Tzeentch @ 95 pts (Bolt of Tzeentch; Chariot of Tzeentch)
HQ: Herald of Tzeentch (1#, 95 pts)
1 Herald of Tzeentch @ 95 pts (Bolt of Tzeentch; Chariot of Tzeentch)
HQ: Herald of Tzeentch (1#, 95 pts)
1 Herald of Tzeentch @ 95 pts (Bolt of Tzeentch; Chariot of Tzeentch)
HQ: Herald of Tzeentch (1#, 95 pts)
1 Herald of Tzeentch @ 95 pts (Bolt of Tzeentch; Chariot of Tzeentch)
Elite: Fiends of Slaanesh (6#, 180 pts)
6 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 180 pts
Elite: Fiends of Slaanesh (6#, 180 pts)
6 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 180 pts
Elite: Fiends of Slaanesh (6#, 180 pts)
6 Fiends of Slaanesh @ 180 pts
Troops: Bloodletters of Khorne (10#, 160 pts)
10 Bloodletters of Khorne @ 160 pts
Troops: Bloodletters of Khorne (10#, 160 pts)
10 Bloodletters of Khorne @ 160 pts
Troops: Plaguebearers of Nurgle (5#, 75 pts)
5 Plaguebearers of Nurgle @ 75 pts
Troops: Plaguebearers of Nurgle (5#, 75 pts)
5 Plaguebearers of Nurgle @ 75 pts
Fast Attack: Flesh Hounds of Khorne (10#, 185 pts)
9 Flesh Hounds of Khorne @ 185 pts
1 Karanak, Hound of Vengeance
Heavy Support: Daemon Prince of Chaos (1#, 140 pts)
1 Daemon Prince of Chaos @ 140 pts (Mark of Tzeentch; Bolt of Tzeentch)
Heavy Support: Daemon Prince of Chaos (1#, 140 pts)
1 Daemon Prince of Chaos @ 140 pts (Mark of Tzeentch; Bolt of Tzeentch)
Heavy Support: Daemon Prince of Chaos (1#, 140 pts)
1 Daemon Prince of Chaos @ 140 pts (Mark of Tzeentch; Bolt of Tzeentch)
Total Roster Cost: 1995
This is needing a lot more conversion work in order to match the theme of my existing army than I previously imagined so don't expect to see this on the table-top any-time soon.
The bike army is more an excuse to use my Jet-bike Conversions in an army so I haven't made any final decisions about the overall army list yet. It will probably be the standard Captain, Command Squad, Biker Troops, Landspeeder mix that pretty much everybody uses ;-)
Something like this,
1750 Pts - Space Marines Roster
HQ: Space Marine Captain (1#, 200 pts)
1 Space Marine Captain @ 200 pts (...in Power Armour)
1 ...in Power Armour (Digital Weapons; Hellfire Rounds; Artificer Armour; Space Marine Bike; Bolt Pistol; Relic Blade x1)
1 Space Marine Bike
: Command Squad (5#, 380 pts)
1 Command Squad @ 380 pts (Space Marine Bike; Veteran; Veteran)
1 Apothecary (Unit on SM Bikes)
1 Veteran (Storm Shield; Unit on SM Bikes; Meltagun x1; Thunder Hammer x1)
3 Veteran (Storm Shield; Unit on SM Bikes; Lightning Claw x1; Meltagun x1)
Troops: Space Marine Bike Squad (9#, 300 pts)
7 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 300 pts (Meltagun x2; Attack Bike)
1 Attack Bike (Multi-Melta)
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Combi-Flamer)
Troops: Space Marine Bike Squad (5#, 200 pts)
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 pts (Meltagun x2; Attack Bike)
1 Attack Bike (Multi-Melta)
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Combi-Flamer)
Troops: Space Marine Bike Squad (5#, 200 pts)
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 pts (Meltagun x2; Attack Bike)
1 Attack Bike (Multi-Melta)
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Combi-Flamer)
Troops: Space Marine Bike Squad (5#, 200 pts)
3 Space Marine Bike Squad @ 200 pts (Meltagun x2; Attack Bike)
1 Attack Bike (Multi-Melta)
1 Sergeant (Melta Bombs; Combi-Flamer)
Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 90 pts (Typhoon Missile Launcher x1)
Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 90 pts (Typhoon Missile Launcher x1)
Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 90 pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 90 pts (Typhoon Missile Launcher x1)
Total Roster Cost: 1750
This is the list most subject to change as I'll probably be making more concessions to 'theme' than I normally do in order to justify the 'Jetbikes' ;-)
Also as several of my friends have needed to practice against Lash Lists due to them having infantry Grey Knight and Blood Angel Jump Pack armies (and Dual Lash is still fairly common in UK tournaments) I have been using this,
1750 Pts - Just for Fun Chaos List
HQ: Daemon Prince (1#, 155 pts)
1 Daemon Prince @ 155 pts (Wings; Mark of Slaanesh; Lash of Submission x1)
HQ: Daemon Prince (1#, 155 pts)
1 Daemon Prince @ 155 pts (Wings; Mark of Slaanesh; Lash of Submission x1)
Troops: Khorne Berzerkers (9#, 253 pts)
7 Khorne Berzerkers @ 253 pts (Rhino)
1 Skull Champion (Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Twin Linked Bolter; Combi-melta)
Troops: Khorne Berzerkers (9#, 253 pts)
7 Khorne Berzerkers @ 253 pts (Rhino)
1 Skull Champion (Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Twin Linked Bolter; Combi-melta)
Troops: Khorne Berzerkers (9#, 253 pts)
7 Khorne Berzerkers @ 253 pts (Rhino)
1 Skull Champion (Power Fist)
1 Rhino (Twin Linked Bolter; Combi-melta)
Heavy Support: Obliterators (3#, 225 pts)
3 Obliterators @ 225 pts
Heavy Support: Obliterators (3#, 225 pts)
3 Obliterators @ 225 pts
Heavy Support: Obliterators (3#, 225 pts)
3 Obliterators @ 225 pts
Total Roster Cost: 1744
Yes I know it's pretty rubbish but I've had a lot of practice using it so I can still cause people problems with it should I put my mind to it, lol.
Thoughts and comments are (as usual) most welcome.
So, quick question:
ReplyDeleteWhat codexes are you able to provide list optimization for? Obviously Space Wolves, Chaos Daemons, Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines will work, and Tyranids, Skaven, and Imperial Guard are good bets too, but otherwise there's really no way to tell.
@ C'nor - I can optimise pretty much any 40K army if I set my mind to it. There are better people to ask about Skaven than me though, lol.
ReplyDeleteBear in mind that from the point of view of incoming e-mail requests I define 'Optimisation' as making the best of the list that's sent to me. I can design a list based around a theme if that's what people want but it's obviously going to be less balanced than one designed from scratch (in most cases).